This is such a helpful discussion about the Ravi Zacharias scandal, from Glen Scrivener and Sam Allberry. Sam was part of RZIM when the most recent allegations were made; Glen does a great job of drawing out wider lessons for the church. It is a thoughtful and clarifying conversation, full of nuance and insight, and it is well worth reflecting on for those of us (probably a majority of readers) who are involved in governance and leadership in the church. It also includes some hugely thought-provoking comments, including Sam's reasons for throwing out Ravi's books, Glen's observation on cover-ups since Eden ("we're always trying to look good in the presence of judgment, rather than look bad in the presence of love"), and Sam's concerns about anyone in leadership who doesn't belong to a local church.